Trip to Hinckley / Nuneaton 02-08-2014

Bus	From	To	Service	Operator
1916	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R2)	Stoney Stanton, adj New Road	X55	Arriva Midlands
2568	Stoney Stanton, opp Bluebell Inn	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R4)	X55	Arriva Midlands
3904	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R2)	Barwell, The Square (NE-bound)	158	Arriva Midlands
2115	Barwell, opp East Green	Barwell, Charnwood Road (NE Bound)	82	Arriva Midlands
2115	Barwell, Charnwood Road (NE Bound)	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R2)	82	Arriva Midlands
2201	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R1)	Hinckley, adj Netherley Court	82	Arriva Midlands
3904	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R4)	Nuneaton BS	158	Arriva Midlands

Today we decided to re-visit Hinckley. We had been checking the weather and the Met Office had given out a yellow weather warning for some areas so we left until Saturday morning before choosing the destination. A quick check off the BBC UK weather map help us to decided to go in a South Easterly direction. We gave Matthew a few familiar destination in this direction and Matthew chose Hinckley. Other than to check the weather we did no research. Matthew got up around 10:30 and had toast and orange juice for breakfast. We set off just after 11:30 and we headed onto the A5035. We turned right at the Hem Heath pub onto Stanley Matthews Ways and then onto the Westbound A50. We turned North onto the A500 which we did up to Shelton New Road so we could pick up LPG. Once we had filled up we headed onto the A53 and onto the Southbound A500 which we did down to the M6. The rain was not heavy but it was persistent. Going South traffic was heavy and running a little slow. We were passed by a couple of coaches. Firstly we were passed by Holmeswood Coaches PO12 EOA. A few minutes later we passed by Shearings Holidays YN60 CAA.

Shearings Holidays YN60 CAA on the M6

We went through the roadworks section from junction 13 and the we came off the M6 at the junction with the A5. A few mile along the A5 we stopped at the trucker cafe on the right. Matthew used their toilet and then had a breakfast washed down with a can of Coke. We got back onto the road just after 13:00, and we carried on East along the A5. As we got close to Tamworth the rain stopped. When we got to the B4666 the South side of the road was clear and cloud free and the Hinckley side of the road was under a dark cloud! We continued the last few miles into town and the rain started again. We said goodbye to mum and we set off towards the toilet via the bus station. The bus station is currently under redevelopment but there are still a few services that call in there, and also vehicles layover there. One of the vehicles on layover was Grand UK Holidays coach YJ14 BYL.

Grand UK Holidays YJ14 BYL in Hinckley bus station

In front of that was 'Hinckley Bus' 1916 about to work the X55 to Leicester from Regent Street.

Arriva Midlands 1916 in Hinckley bus station

We carried on up to the toilet and then we walked over to Regent Street. We noticed that 'Hinckley Bus' 1916 was still at the stop so we decided to catch this bus. It wasn't a required bus as we had been on this bus back in April, but we decided to do it anyway. We got on the bus and asked for the Hinckley Bus day ticket expecting it to be £7.50 each. When the driver told us it was £8 between us we were surprised. Apparently Hinckley Bus has now fully integrated into Arriva Midlands and there was anew local Daysaver for £4 and the £6.20 midland Daysaver tickets wer now valid on their buses. We ended up getting a Midland Daysaver group ticket for £10. We sat down and the bus set off North through town before heading towards Burbage. It had now stopped raining and the weather was starting to clear. We checked the timetable to see where we could travel to and get a bus back. As we checked the timetable we passed Arriva Midlands 2555 on the first X55 going back. With the X55 being a limited stop bus, we checked the main stops to see where we could go to. We saw that we could go to Stoney Stanton for 20 minutes which would give us time to visit a shop whilst we were there. The bus carried on through Aston Flamville and Sapcote. A mile or so up the road from Sapcote is Stoney Stanton. We saw a junction and a Co-op food store so we assumed we had reached the centre of town. We got up and got off and Matthew got another picture of this beast.

Arriva Midlands 1916 in Stoney Stanton

We crossed the road and walked to the Co-op food store. Whilst there Matthew had a can of Coke and a bottle of Cherry Coke as well as some chocolate and a box of millionaire shortbread squares. We crossed the road to the stop to wait for the bus back. Whilst there Matthew had a bus stop picnic of a Toffee Crisp washed down with the bottle of Cherry Coke. A few minutes later we saw a 'Hinckley Bus' liveried Solo approaching. As it got closer we saw it was required Arriva Midlands 2568.

Arriva Midlands 2568 in Stoney Stanton

We got on the bus and we flashed our tickets. Matthew beeped the horn on the bus. We sat down and the bus set off back towards Hinkley via Sapcote, Aston Flamville and Burbage. As we approached Hinckley we passed Arriva Midlands 2555 going the other way. We got into town and we let the bus empty so that Matthew could take a picture inside Arriva Midlands 2568.

Inside Arriva Midlands 2568

Matthew decided to take us on a walk through town for a short while. We walked up the pedestrianised Castle Street and back down into town via Stockwell Head. When we got back into Regent Street we stopped and Matthew ate some of his millionaires shortbread. We then saw Arriva Midlands 3912 going South towards Nuneaton.

Arriva Midlands 3912 in Hinckley

On a #71 to Burbage was dud Arriva Midlands 1906.

Arriva Midlands 1906 in Hinckley

We decided to walk up the road a little to see what was due to go North towards Barwell. Since our previous visit, Arriva Midlands buses on the #158 service come through Regent Street instead of the bus station due to it's re-development. When we saw Arriva Midlands 3904 on the #158 to Leicester we decided to catch it.

Arriva Midlands 3904 in Hinckley

We got on the bus and flashed our tickets. The bus was quite full and we sat down near the back. As we were about to set off required Arriva Midlands 2115 pulled up in front of us on the less direct #82 Barwell service. We though that we should be able to head this bus off in Barwell and get on it there. We set off North along the B4667 which became the A447 as we left town and passed the hospital. we turned right off the A447 and we headed into Barwell. As we had never been into Barwell from this direct it took us a little by surprise, but we spotted the Co-op and we got up and got off. As we got off we got another picture of Arriva Midlands 3904.

Arriva Midlands 3904 in Barwell

On the opposite side of the road we saw Arriva Midlands 3901 on the Nuneaton bound service.

Arriva Midlands 3901 in Barwell

We crossed over the road to check out when the #82 to Barwell was due. We also checked out when the next #82 to Hinckley was too. The #82 to Barwell was due first at 16:07, and we thought that this would probably be Arriva Midlands 2115. We had around 10 minute to wait so Matthew sat on the concrete blocks outside the disused garage and had a few more millionaires shortbread squares. When the bus was due we looked down the road and we saw a red Dart approaching. As predicted it was required Arriva Midlands 2115.

Arriva Midlands 2115 in Barwell

We got on the bus and flashed our tickets before we sat down. This bus is a very recent transfer from Wednesfield. The bus set off north into the housing estate in Barwell and then when the bus started to turn to go back towards Hinckley I got up to flash the tickets again for the return journey. We went back through Barwell and then the long way back onto the A447 before going into Hinckley via Stanley Road and Hollycroft passing Arriva Midlands 1914 on the #82 to Barwell as we went. When we got into town we let the bus empty and Matthew took a picture inside this rather smart looking Dart.

Inside Arriva Midlands 2115

We then crossed the road and got another good picture of the outside of Arriva Midlands 2115 too.

Arriva Midlands 2115 in Hinckley

We saw dud Arriva Midlands 2567 on the #75 to Wykin and we decided to go and visit the toilets on Station Road. On the way to the toilet we stopped to photograph Stagecoach Warwickshire 36171 on the #48 to Coventry. When we got to the toilet Matthew must have spotted a smartly dressed person enter a door on the other side of the car park that the toilet block was situated on. The building was a place called the green rooms which had been an old masonic hall which could be see from the stone above the door. Matthew dragged me in to go say hell to a couple of people. It turned out to be a wedding reception! After Matthew had said hello we used the toilet and then we headed back towards regent street via Station Road and he Horsefair. As it was quite warm we decided to visit a shop and get another drink. We sat down on a bench on regent street and Matthew drank his can of Vimto and also got another picture of Arriva Midlands 1906 on the #71.

Arriva Midlands 1906 in Hinckley

Dud Arriva Midlands 2201 was on the #82 but we decided to do this a filler move to get Arriva Midlands 1914 back before going on the 17:10 #86 to Nuneaton.

Arriva Midlands 2201 in Hinckley

We got on the bus and flashed our tickets. Matthew photographed the switches on the drivers cab before we sat down and Matthew photographed the empty seats opposite us.

Inside Arriva Midlands 2201

The bus set off out of town, but it didn't turn left into Hollycroft... It then dawned on us that there must be a diversion in place, but only in one direction. We seemed to have travelled back from Barwell normally earlier on Arriva Midlands 2115. We decided to get off the bus and walk back towards Hollycroft to pick up the unknown bus on the #86 having probably missed doing Arriva Midlands 1914 on the Hinckley bound #82.

Arriva Midlands 2201 in Hinckley

The only problem is that we only had around 10 minutes to do it in and it was well over 1/2 a mile! We set off at a fast walk. We then tried a slow jog. Matthew was unable to run very far or fast. I think he got stitch as he was struggling and holding his side. We got onto Hollycroft around 17:12 but there wasn't a stop opposite. so we walked back towards town. When we got to stop there were barriers around it as the kerb had been raised for use with low floor buses. This was probably why the buses were being divert! We resigned ourselves to the fact that we had missed the 17:10 from Hinckley... That had probably been diverted too. At least with his other ticket there were other bus options. There was a #158 from Regent Street to Nuneaton at 17:32. We walked back down into town and we got to the stop at around 17:25 Whilst we were there we saw Arriva Midlands 1908 depart on a #58 to Market Harborough, and then we saw Arriva Midlands 2555 arrive in town having worked a X55 from Leicester.

Arriva Midlands 2555 in Hinckley

The destination as changed to Three Potts as it was going to work the next #5. Just then we saw and Arriva turquoise bus approaching on the #158. What are the chances of that... it was dud Arriva Midlands 3904 that we had been on earlier in the day!

Arriva Midlands 3904 in Hinckley

We got on the bus and flashed the tickets. Matthew went to say hello to someone and scared them as they had been asleep! We sat down and the bus set off out of town down the Southbound B4666. We joined the A5 and then turned towards Nuneaton on the A47. Part way along The Long Shoot, the bus emptied in front of us and Matthew took a picture inside Arriva Midlands 3904.

Inside Arriva Midlands 3904

East of the town, we around the one way system before crossing over the railway and joining onto the anti-clockwise ring road. Just inside the ring road close to the railway station we pulled into the bus station. We got off the bus and Matthew dragged us over to go say hello to someone before we walked over to the toilets. The journey to Nuneaton on the #158 was much quicker than we had anticipated, and as such we had caught up with the #86 from Hinckley. Had we not been bowled out for this service, we would have been on required Arriva Midlands 2570! We set off to where mum was usually parked, taking bus pictures on the way. The first bus we encountered was Stagecoach Warwickshire 36748 on a #5A to Camp Hill

Stagecoach Warwickshire 36748 in Nuneaton bus station

Next we saw Stagecoach Warwickshire 39681 pause next to Dart 34496 which were on services #10 and #18 respectively.

Stagecoach Warwickshire 39681 in Nuneaton bus station

We crossed the ring road and mum was just parking by B&M have been over at Asda earlier. We got in the car and we had a Greggs sausage roll which Matthew washed down with 1/2 a litre bottle of sugar free irn-Bru. We set off out off town around the ring road, over the railway and onto the Northbound A444. A few miles up the road we went West on the A5. It was sunshine and showers most of the way back to the M6. In Brownhills we saw National Express West Midlands double decker 4767 on a #10A to Walsall as we passed though the Northern edge of the west Midlands. Having got in the wrong lane near Cannock and briefly joining the A34, we got back onto the A5 to pass South of Cannock and join onto the M6. We headed North up the M6 in sunshine and we came off the motorway at the Southern end of the A500. We went North on the A500 to Sideway, where we joined the Westbound A50 up to Longton to check out Z Carz. There were 6 buses parked up on the spare ground tonight. Firstly was the Scania coach D104 XAN.

Z Carz D104 XAN in Longton

Then we saw Ford minibus FP06 WTW.

Z Carz FP06 WTW in Longton

Towards the back of the spare ground was Matthew's old school bus, LDV M420 UEH.

Z Carz M420 UEH in Longton

At the back corner of the ground was Volkswagen minibus DX55 WGE.

Z Carz DX55 WGE in Longton

The we had Mercedes minibus BV51 BNO.

Z Carz BV51 BNO in Longton

Finally was former Phil Smiths Travel Mercedes minibus, M372 NWN.

Z Carz M372 NWN in Longton

We turned left into Willow Row and the only bus in the compound was another former school bus, long term SORN LDV minibus T408 JUX looking a little sorry for itself. We rejoined the A50 and we traveled up to Heron Cross. We traveled home through Blurton, and we got home at 19:30. For a late tea we had bangers and mash with carrots followed by a cake bar. Matthew then chilled out on his computer until bedtime at 00:00... Mark

Trip to Hinckley / Nuneaton 19-04-2014

Bus	From	To	Service	Operator
1914	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R2)	Burbage, adj Wolvey Road	5	Hinckley Bus / Arriva Midlands
1914	Burbage, adj Wolvey Road	Hinckley, o/s Library	5	Hinckley Bus / Arriva Midlands
2201	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R3)	Burbage, adj Horsepool	71	Hinckley Bus / Arriva Midlands
1906	Burbage, adj Horsepool	Hinckley, o/s Library	71	Hinckley Bus / Arriva Midlands
1908	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R3)	Burbage, adj Horsepool	71	Hinckley Bus / Arriva Midlands
2200	Burbage, adj Horsepool	Hinckley, o/s Library	71	Hinckley Bus / Arriva Midlands
1916	Hinckley, Regent Street (Stand R2)	Nuneaton BS	86	Hinckley Bus / Arriva Midlands

Today we decided to re-visit Hinckley with the aim of try to ride on a few of the step entranced minibus operated by the Arriva Midland subsidiary Hinckley Bus. Once again we waited until Friday to pick where we were going so that we could check on the weather. Having given Matthew a list of places to go (mainly in the North West) , Matthew chose Hinckley. Research consisted of downloading all or the timetables onto my phone and to check the weather, which was for mainly fine and sunny with some cloud. Matthew got up around 10:00 and had toast and orange juice for breakfast. after getting ready we set off at around 11:45. We got onto the A5035 and then we turned on Stanley Matthews Way. We then went onto the Northbound A500 which we did up to Shelton New Road so that we could fill up with LPG. Whilst we were waiting to fill up we heard on the radio that there had been an accident on the Northbound M6, so it was lucky that we weren't heading North today... After filling up we headed onto the Westbound A53, before heading south on the A500. We got onto the Southbound M6 which appeared to be quiet due to traffic struggling to get past the accident between junction 18 & 17. We travelled through the roadworks South of junction 13 and we came off the M6 and joined the Eastbound A5. Instead of stopping at the first truck stop on the left hand side of the road we decided to stop at the other one about 3/4 further East. After using the toilet Matthew sat down to have an English breakfast followed by a lemon meringue pie washed down with a can of Coke. After we had finished we headed back onto the A5 and carried on East. When we got to Brownhills we saw WM travel 1752 on a #10A service and Arriva Midlands 2414 on a #23 service. We carried on East and somewhere near Atherstone we saw Arriva Midlands Scania 3812 on a #765 to Lichfield. We carried on further East along the A5 and we turned at the B4666 to do the last couple of miles into Hinckley. As we travelled in we passed required Hinckley Bus 2202 on a #76 service. We parked up in a car park off Rugby Road (B590). We said goodbye to mum and we headed up to the public toilet of Station Road. After Matthew had been we headed back towards Regent Street where most of the Hinckley bus service run from. When we got there there weren't any buses to view but that changed quickly. Firstly required Hinckley bus appeared to work the #58A to Lutterworth.

Hinckley Bus 1916 in Hinckley

Then required Hinckley Bus 1914 appeared on the #5 Three Pots circular service.

Hinckley Bus 1914 in Hinckley

We decided to ride on Hinckley Bus 1914 on the #5 circular. We got on the bus and we booked our Hinckley Bus day saver tickets at £7.50. We sat down near the back of the bus and we waited for time.At 14:25 the bus set off out of town down towards the railway station. We crossed under the railway line and we climbed up the hill On Rugby Road. We turned into a housing estate and weaved our way around it. We saw The Three Pots and we got up and flashed the ticket for the return journey. The bus went back dwn through the estate over a different route and we appeared on Rugby Road at the bottom of the hill. We crossed under the railway line and we saw Hinckley Bus Solo 2567 on the #71 to Burbage. We headed back to town and we got up to get off the bus outside the Library. As we got up to get off Matthew got a picture inside Hinckley Bus 1914.

Inside Hinckley Bus 1914

We walked up Regent Street and we looked at the timetables. There was a #71 to Burbage due at 14:54 so we had around 10 minutes. Across the road required Hinckley Bus 2557 was about to work the #81 to Earl Shilton.

Hinckley Bus 2557 in Hinckley

We decided to have a little picnic whilst we waited for the next bus. Matthew drank a small bottle Irn Bru and ate a millionaire shortbread that we had purchased from Morrisons in Ormskirk on our last big trip out. As he was finishing eating the shortbread we saw required Hinckley Bus Dart 2201 on the next #71 to Burbage. We decided to do this bus in the absence of something step entranced to do. We waled down the road from where we were sitting and Matthew got a picture of Hinckley Bus 2201.

Hinckley Bus 2201 in Hinckley

We got on the bus and we sat down near the back. The bus set off and left town along the same route as the #5 service. We passed the railway station and went under the railway line. We started to Climb the hill up Rugby Road and then we turned into Brrokside. The bus then took a winding rout through a flowers named estate. We travelled along Azalea drive before heading into the centre of Burbage village. We saw what we though was the end of the route so we got up to get off. As we were getting off Matthew got a picture inside this unusual Dart.

Inside Hinckley Bus 2201

Matthew then got another picture of Hinckley Bus 2201 in the picturesque village of Burbage.

Hinckley Bus 2201 in Burbage

We had a 20 minute wait for the next bus, so we decided to have a little walk around. We sat on a bench by the war memorial and Matthew had another small bottle of Irn Bru and a Milky Way. Across the road we saw a house with a blue plaque outside so we went to investigate. It was house of Edward Crump, responsible for bring clean water to Burbage in 1915. We then walked back to the bus stop which was outside a small enclosed pond called the horsepool. We had less than 10 minutes to wait here for the next bus. we also noticed that the hourly Hinckley bound #58A stopped here, at 34 minutes past the hour. Just before our bus was due we saw a double decker approaching. It was Travel de Courcey 801 on the X6 service to Leicester. This an hourlt service of which some of the buses (approximately every 3 hours) call in the village of Burbage. Right behind that we saw a white Mercedes minibus. We then knew it was required Hinckley Bus 1906.

Hinckley Bus 1906 in Burbage

We got on this bus and sat down near the back. This is a bus that until recently was operating with Wardle Transport. We sat back and enjoyed the journey back into Hinckley enjoying the comfort of the high backed coach style seating in this bus. We headed back through the estates and onto Rugby Road before heading into town past the railway station. The bus stopped outside the library and we got up to get off. Matthew took a picture of the inside of this fine Mercedes minibus but we did.

Inside Hinckley Bus 1906

We headed to the public toilet on Station Road before walking into town to see what we could catch next. About to work a #81 to Earl Shilton was Hinckley Bus 2567.

Hinckley Bus 2567 in Hinckley

Seeing this made us realise that the buses worked in a circuit. First doing a #71 to Burbage and back before then work a #82 to Barwell. Finally buses then did a round trip on the #81 to Earl Shilton. This made us realise that the next #71 to Burbage would probably be something we hadn't previously been on, so we went to a shop to stock up on supplies. Matthew brought a can of Coke and some chocolate bars, as well as a bag of herbal tablets. Matthew came out of the shop and we saw required Hinckley Bus 1908. We got on the bus which was loading up and as we got on the bus Matthew took a picture of the empty rear of Hinckley Bus 1908.

Inside Hinckley Bus 1908

The bus set off out of town and we went towards the railway station and started to climb towards Burbage. We turned into Brookside and as we knew where we were going I decided to plan where we could meet up with mum. Mum had recently set off to do some shopping in Nuneaton, and I wondered if we could do the #86 Hinckley Bus service to meet her rather that pay to go on another operator. As we travelled out of town we were missing the 16:10 departure, but there was a 17:10 that we should be able to get on with no problems. The timetable stated that the service started from Hinckley, The Borough. We worked out that we should be able to get off and wait for the next #71 and still get back into town and have time to go to the toilet and have a quick bus stop picnic. We called mum to tell hr our plans and we we got up and got off at the Horsepool stop in Burbage again. Matthew got a good picture of Hinckley Bus 1908 before it headed off back into town.

Hinckley Bus 1908 in Burbage

This time we decided to have a bit of an explore around the Horsepool. We took a few pictures and sat in the garden whilst re-checking the bus times. The bus back was 10 minutes later than we thought it was. Whilst we waited we also saw Hinckley Bus 2568 going towards Lutterworth on a #58A service. A few minutes later we saw required Hinckley bus Dart 2200 approaching.

Hinckley Bus 2200 in Burbage

The bus was nearly empty so Matthew got a picture inside this bus as we got on it.

Inside Hinckley Bus 2200

We sat down to enjoy the journey back into town. We weaved through the housing estate and then onto Brookside before turning into rugby Road. We saw Hinckley Bus 2562 on the #5 Three Pots circular. We crossed back under the railway line and back into town. We got off at the library and Matthew got another of Hinckley Bus 2200 now showing the destination of it next journey on the #82 to Barwell.

Hinckley Bus 2200 in Hinckley

Right behind us was Hinckley Bus Solo 2562, which had followed us down Rugby Road into town.

Hinckley Bus 2562 in Hinckley

We used the toilet in Station Road before walking up Station Road until we got to Regents Road. As we looked for the stop for the #86 we saw Hinckley Bus 2202 arrive in town on the #75. It then became the next #76 service.

Hinckley Bus 2202 in Hinckley

We walked back up to The Borough stop to wait for the #86. Matthew had A Galaxy Caramel and small bottle of Barr Cherryade. Hinckley Bus 1908 had arrived back in town having been to Barwell and Back and was now about to work the #81 to Earl Shilton.

Hinckley Bus 1908 in Hinckley

Just behind that required Hinckley bus 1916 arrived on the #58A from Lutterworth. It then became the #86 to Nuneaton... Result!

Hinckley Bus 1916 in Hinckley

We got on the bus and we sat down near the back of the bus. At 17:10 the bus set off out of town heading West. Just outside of town we passed Hinckley Bus 1913 which must have been on the 16:45 #86 from Nuneaton, due into Hinckley at 17:20. We carried on out of town past morrisons and the bus turned around by the village green in Dadlington. The bus then headed through Stoke Golding and the Higham-on-the-Hill. We crossed the A5 and we did the last mile or so into Nuneaton. We crossed over the railway line and went into the bus station. When we got there we let the bus empty before getting a picture inside Hinckley Bus 1916.

Inside Hinckley Bus 1916

There were a couple of buses in the bus station so we took some pictures before we left. Stagecoach Midlands 47072 was on the #2 to Red Deeps.

Stagecoach Midland 47072 in Nuneaton bus station

Also at the bus station was Stagecoach Midlands 47074.

Stagecoach Midland 47074 in Nuneaton bus station

Matthew used the the toilet in the bus station before we walked over to the where mum was parked near B&M. Mum was waiting at the car with sausage baps which Matthew washed down with a 500ml bottle of Irn Bru. As I was slowly reversing out of the car park a car came speeding around the corner and just missed hitting us! We set off out of town along the A444 and onto the A5. We carried on west and we decided to try and get back a bit quicker driving along a longer but faster route. We went North on the M42 which we did though onto the A42 and onto the A50. We then drove west along the A50 into the evening sun. At Longton we came off the A50 so we could check out what was parked up at Z Carz. There were only 2 buses parked up tonight. The first was silver LDV minibus CN57 HWA

Z Carz CN57 HWA in Longton

The other bus was classic LDV minibus DS51 ZJU.

Z Carz DS51 ZJU in Longton

We turned around in Willow row and we went back onto the A50. We went through Blurton and saw first Potteries 40367 on the #23. We got home at around 17:15. For a late tea Matthew had bangers and mash with carrots. This was followed by chocolate fudge cake that mum had brought earlier. Matthew then chilled out on his computer until bedtime around 00:30...Mark