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Saturday, 28 March 2020

Trip to Leicester / Thurmaston 28-03-2020









BusFromToServiceOperator



2528Leicester Haymarket BSThurmaston, Asda6Arriva Midlands
2938Thurmaston, AsdaLeicester Haymarket BS6Arriva Midlands
28629Leicester Haymarket BSOadby, Opp WaitroseX7Stagecoach Midlands
4502Oadby, Opp AsdaLeicester Haymarket BSX3Arriva Midlands
63379Leicester Haymarket BSBeaumont Centre, (Stand G)26First Leicester
32646Beaumont Centre, (Stand G)Leicester Haymarket BS26First Leicester


Today Matthew was in the residential unit and he was going to Leicester. We hope that this bus was going to be First South Yorkshire 63379 which is currently on loan to Leicester. Matthew got up around 08:00 and had toast for breakfast. before Matthew went to the day centre he watched buses out of the window. whilst waiting for the time to go to the day centre, we saw Temple Street Church minibus RX18 GZW.


Temple Street Church RX18 GZW in Fenton
Matthew chilled out in his room before going out. We saw First Potteries 67665 on a #11 to Newcastle.


First Potteries 67665 in Fenton
Also seen was First Potteries 67152 on a #23 to Hanley.


First Potteries 67152 in Fenton
When it was time to go out We went downstairs and we got in the car. We set off onto Temple Street and we turned left onto Christchurch Street. We crossed City Road onto Manor Street and we ran to the end where we turned left onto Victoria Road to Joiners Square and we turned left onto Warrington Road. We turned left onto the A52. we ran towards Stoke. We ran forwards onto Glebe Street and we followed the one-way system onto Church Street. We crossed over the A500 and we got onto the Southbound A500. We ran Southwards to Sideway and we got onto the Eastbound A50. We ran Eastwards for around 40 miles and we got onto the Southbound M1. junction and we ran the final 8 miles or so into Leicester. On the edge of town we turned left onto Blackbird Road and right onto Ravensbridge Drive. We joined St Margaret's Way and we turned left onto Burleys Way. As we passed the bus station we saw Kinch Bus 649 on a #2 to Loughborough. We turned right onto Abbey Street and left into Gardens Street. We went into the Abbey Street car park and we found a space and parked up. Once we had parked we went down to the ground floor and onto Abbey Street. We turned right onto Belgrave Gate and we crossed over the road. We walked into the bus station and we saw Stagecoach Midlands 26225 on a #48 to Coventry. Once in the bus station we headed to the facilities and Matthew used the toilet. Mum queued up at the food counter by Holland Park Amusements and Matthew took a few bus pictures. We saw First Leicester 66841 on a #18 to Bruanstone. Once the food was ready we took it in to the bus station and sat down to eat it. Matthew had a bacon and sausage bap washed down with a can of Coke. When we had finished eating we said goodbye to mum and we looked for a bus to catch. We saw Arriva Midlands 2528 on a #6 to Thurmaston. We got on the bus and we brought Flexi multi-operator tickets at £5.20 each before we sat down towards the back of the bus. We set off out of the bus station onto Belgrave Gate and we went under the flyover onto the A607. We ran Northwards along the golden mile which still had most of the lights still in place from Diwali. We ran Northwards for a couple of miles and we turned right onto Humberstone Lane. We turned left onto Silverdale Drive and we followed the road to the right. We turned right onto Church Hill Road and left onto Beacon Avenue. We turned left onto Sandiacre Drive and we followed the road around. We turned right onto Charnwood Avenue and left onto Highway Road. We turned left onto Barkby Thorpe Lane and we got up and got off the bus outside the Thurmaston shopping centre. Once off the bus Matthew expressed a wish to visit a toilet. There was a nearby Marks & Spencers foodhall so we visited there. After Matthew had been the toilet we brought some caterpillar sweets which had been reduced as they were for Halloween and a bottle of Coke. After we had paid for the good we returned to the bus stop on the opposite side of the road. The bus does a u-turn at the roundabout and afterwards stops on the opposite side of the road from where we got off. Whilst we waited for the next bus Matthew ate a few of the caterpillars. We saw a bus approaching and we saw it was required Arriva Midlands 2938 a #6 to Leicester Haymarket. We got on the bus and we placed the flexi tickets under the scanner. we sat down towards the back of the bus. We set off along Barkby Thorpe Lane and we turned right onto Highway Road. We turned right onto Charnwood Avenue and we followed it around to the end. We turned left onto Sandiacre Drive and we headed Southwards. At the end of Sandiacre Drive we turned right onto Beacon Avenue. We turned right onto Church Hill Road and left onto Silverdale Drive. We followed the road Southwards and we turned right onto Humberstone Lane. We turned left onto the A607 and we headed Southwards through the Golden Mile. We crossed over the roundabout under the flyover and we ran down Belgrave Gate and into the bus station. Once we got off the bus we had a walk around and we looked to see what else we might catch. We saw First Leicester 66805 on a #38A to Thurnby Lodge. A few minutes later we saw required Stagecoach Midlands 28629 on a X7 to Market Harborough. We decided to do this bus so we got on the bus and we placed the Flexi day ticket under the scanner before we sat down towards the back of the bus. The bus set off out of the bus station and we turned sharp right onto Charles Street and we headed South Eastwards. We joined the Southbound A594 and we went past the railway station on the the A6. AS we travelled down the A6 out of town for a further 2 1/2 miles and the bus stopped on the A6 opposite to Waitrose. We got up and got off the bus. We crossed over the road and we noticed a sign to say that Waitrose. We looked at the bus stop and the next X3 wasn't due for another 25 minutes. We decided to walk into Oadby to see if we could possibly catch another bus. As we walked away from the stop we saw Centrebus 315 on a #40 circular service. We walked down the B582 and we turned right onto The Parade. we turned right Wigston Road and Brabazon Road. We continued along The Parade through the festivities and we stopped at the Post Office. Matthew had a can of Coke and a couple of chocolate bars. When we had paid foe everything we continued along the Parade until we reached the A6. Ww decided to wait for the X3 which was now due in a few minutes time we looked on the bustime.org live bus map and we could see a bus approaching. The bus appeared a few minutes and as expected it was Arriva Midlands 4502 on a X3 to Leicester St Margarets. We got on the bus and we placed Flexi multi-operator tickets under the scanner before we went upstairs. we set off Northwards up the A6. We ran through the leafy suburbs of Leicester and we ran past the railway station. We ran forwards onto Charles street We saw First Leicester 69303 on a #88 to Eyres Monsell. We stopped in the street outside the Haymarket Bus Station and we got up and got off the bus. Once off the bus we walked into the bus station and we met up with mum. We told her we were doing one more quick round trip. We spotted required First Leicester 63379 on a #26 to the Beaumont centre. We got on the bus and we placed the flexi tickets under the scanner. we sat down towards the back of the bus. We set off out of the bus station onto Belgrave Gate and we went under the flyover onto the A607. We turned left onto Abbey Park Road. We ran forwards on to Blackbird we turned right onto Parker Drive. We turned left onto Somerset Drive and we headed Westwards. We turned left onto Cheltenham Road and left onto Heacham Drive. After a long run through the estate we ran forwards onto Strasbourg Drive. We crossed the A563 and we ran forwards onto Orwell Drive. At the roundabout we turned right onto Rutherford Rood an we stopped at the Beaumont Centre where we got up and got off the bus. Once off the bus we walked to the local pub. Matthew used the toilet and afterwards had a glass of Coke. When we had finished we went outside to meet up with uncle Dave. Matthew expressed a wish to catch a #25 back to Leicester. Whilst we waited we saw First Leicester 66965 on a #74 to Leicester. As we waited we spotted First Leicester double decker 32646 on a #26 to Leicester. We decided to do the double decker so we legged it over to the other stop. We got on the bus and we flashed the Flexi Day tickets to the driver for the final time today before going upstairs. The bus set off along Rutherford Road and we turned left onto Beaumont Way. At the roundabout we turned right onto Benion Road. We turned left onto Astill Lodge Road and we ran through the Beaumont estate. We re-joined Benion Road and we turned right onto Knights Road. We turned left onto Madeline Road and we ran past the back of the Walkers Crisps factory. We turned right onto Beaumont Leys Road and we ran Southwards. We turned left onto Belmont Boulevards and left onto Holderness Road. We ran forwards onto Border Drive and we turned left onto Red Hill Way. At the roundabout we turned right onto Halifax Road and we turned left onto Thurcaston Road. We crossed over the A6 and we continued along Thurcaston Road. We ran into Belgrave and we stopped at the lights. We turned right onto Loughborough Road and we headed Southward towards the Golden Mile. We turned right onto the A607 and we headed into the city centre. At the roundabout we went under the flyover and forwards onto Belgrave Gate. We entered the bus station and we got up and got off the bus. Once off the bus Matthew went to the toilet. Afterwards we took few more pictures before we returned to the car. We saw First Leicester 35182 on a #54 to the Beaumont Centre. We crossed over Belgrave Gate and we crossed over Abbey Street. We went into the entrance of the car park and we paid for the parking. We got the lift up to the appropriate floor and we got in the car. Mum had brought sausage rolls and Matthew had a bottle of Irn Bru. We set off out of the bus station onto Garden Street and we turned right onto Abbey Street. We turned left onto Burley Way and we turned right onto St Margaret's Way. We turned left onto Ravensbridge Drive and we turned left onto Blackbird Road. We turned right onto the A50 and we ran out of the city. We crossed the A46 and we continued Northwards towards the motorway. We joined the Northbound M1 at junction 22 and we travelled up to junction 23A. We came off onto the Westbound A50 and we travelled back through. As we headed West. As we came through Meir. We came off the A50 at Heron Cross and we turned right onto Blurton Road. We ran through Heron Cross onto Heron Street and we followed the road around onto Station Bridge Road. We turned left onto Christchurch street and left again onto Masterson Street. We turned right onto Watkin Street and right onto Temple Street and back to the residential unit. For a late tea Matthew had a chicken burger from KFC. He also had some fries and a cup of Coke. Matthew went up to his room and chilled out on his computer. Later on Matthew had a bath and then had toast for supper. He then chilled out in his room until bedtime around 23:00... Mark.

Saturday, 5 November 2016

Trip to Leicester / Beaumont Centre 05-11-2016
















BusFromToServiceOperator



4759Leicester St Margarets BSBirstall, opp Beechfield Avenue127Arriva Leicester
904Birstall, before Beechfield AvenueLeicester St Margarets BS2Kinch Bus
4764Leicester St Margarets BSBirstall, Red Hill Circle (N Bound)127Arriva Leicester
254Birstall, opp East RoadLeicester, Charles Street (Stand CC)22ACentrebus
35152Leicester Haymarket BSBeaumont Centre (Stand A)14AFirst Leicester
35155Beaumont Centre (Stand A)Leicester Haymarket BS14AFirst Leicester


Today we decided to visit Leicester for the first time. Matthew had been interested in going into Leicester before, when have previously caught buses out of Hinckley, but with time limited as to how far you can travel, we have not been before. We did research of checking to see if there was a multi-operator ticket, for which thankfully there was one. And we download bus maps for the Flexi Ticket area as well as Arriva, First and Centrebus bus maps. We also did some research on where we could park and where we could eat. Matthew got up around 10:30 and had toast and blackcurrant juice for breakfast. We set off just after 12:00 and we drove down to the A5035. We turned left and we ran through Dresden and into Longton, before crossing and joining the Eastbound A50. We ran past the Copeland's Tours depot at Meir where we could see the two orange coaches MIB 116 & MIB 118. We carried on Eastward past Uttoxeter and as we got to the A518 roundabout we saw Robin Hood coach MKZ 1877 join the A50 ahaed of us. We also saw Midland classic single decker 84 follow us on a #401 to Burton-on-Trent. As we ran out Eastwards to the M1 we saw Wilfreda Beehive YJ11 ANX, Silverdale YT16 JMU & Clarkes MV12 ???. We got onto the big roundabout to join the Southbound M1 and we saw Clarkes YN16 NZD. We joined the M1 and as travelled South we passed an unidentified Mercedes party minibus going the other way. We ran South to Junction 22 and we went South Eastwards down the A50 into the centre of Leicester. When we got to Fog island we turned left onto Blackbird Road and right onto Ravensbridge Drive. We turned right onto the A6 and we ran into the centre of town. We crossed the ring road and we pulled into the Matalan car park. After stopping to talk to to the car parking attendant about the T&C's of parking in the car park (a Sikh gentleman with the most amazing moustache that I have ever seen in person) we decided to park elsewhere. As it was a one way street and we had missed the bus station turning, we re-joined the ring road by going along Mansfield Street and Abbey Street. We came back into Church Gate and we turned left onto Gravel Street. There were some short stay car parking spaces on the street so we parked up and then Headed into the bus station. On the way in we saw Harry Shaw VDL coach YJ13 HTG.


Harry Shaw YJ13 HTG in Leicester bus station
We walked into the Leicester St Margarets bus station and Matthew went to the toilet. We didn't find the disabled toilets on this visit, so Matthew used the gents which were a little grim to say the least. The bus station, which is considered to be the main one of the two in town seemed to be in need of a little TLC. We went to the the bus station cafe where we had planned to have dinner and Matthew had a breakfast washed down with a can of coke. From the cafe we could see a few of the stands and we saw buses coming and going on the #2 and #127 services. Both seemed to be quite frequent and a quick check of the Flexi Ticket area map revealed both service went up to towards Birstall. When we had finished eating we said goodbye to mum and we walked across to required Arriva Midlands double decker 4759 which was about to work a #127 to Loughborough.


Arriva Midlands 4759 in Leicester bus station
We got on the bus and we booked Flexi Day Tickets at £5.20 each before going upstairs. The rear of the top deck was empty so Matthew decided to take a picture inside Arriva Midlands 4759.


Inside Arriva Midlands 4759
Whilst we waited for the bus to depart we saw Skills of Nottingham National Express liveried coach BX16 CHJ come into the bus station to go on layover. When it was time to depart the bus reversed off the stand and we ran out onto Gravel Street. At the end we turned left onto Abbey Street and right onto the ring road. We came off the ring road at the next roundabout and we turned left onto the A607. There was a very large roundabout Belgrave Circus and we went across onto the 'Golden Mile'. From this point on there were lights and garlands hanging from building and post still in place from the recent Diwali festival that took place up to and around 30th October. There was a large big wheel set up adjacent to the road on the Eastern side. We travelled for around 1/4 a mile and we turned left onto Loughborough Road where we saw white Van Hool coach PLZ 6542 and white minibus R361 AKL. We travelled North for a further 3/4 of a mile and we crossed the A563 outer ring road and went forwards onto the A6. We passed within a 1/4 mile of the Southern terminus of the Great Central Railway. After we crossed the ring road we paused at the first stop for a short while to wait for time and then we continued up the road. We had seen on the map that there was a #22 service in the area so we thought if we got off the road a bit further up we would have a choice of services back. We travelled a further 1/4 of a mile or so and then we got up and got off the bus. Once off the bus Matthew took another picture of Arriva Midlands 4759 as it carried on towards Loughborough.


Arriva Midlands 4759 in Birstall
We crossed the road to the stop opposite and we looked at the timetable on the post. There were only 2 different service from this stop. The #127 and the #2 operated by Kinch Bus. As we were to find out later that the #22 travel into the centre of Birstall and the road we were on was more of a bypass build some time ago judging by the mid 20th century semi-detached houses on either side of the road. There were at least 6 buses an hour down this road, so we knew we wouldn't have to wait too long. A few minutes later we saw a Kinch Bus approaching. As it got closer we hailed it down and we saw that it was required Kinch Bus Mercedes single decker 904.


Kinch Bus 904 in Birstall
We got on the bus and we flashed the Flexi day Ticket to the driver before we sat down towards the back of the bus. We set off down the road and at the roundabout we went straight across onto Loughborough Road. We ran down to the Golden Mile and we joined the Southbound A607. As we crossed over Belgrave Circus we noticed a few double decker coaches on an adjacent street. We went straight across onto Belgrave gate and as we approached the junction of Abbey Street caught our first glimpse of the other bus station... The modern Haymarket bus station adjacent to the shopping centre of the same name. We turned onto Abbey Street and we run to near the end where we turned into the St Margaret bus station. We got up and got off the bus and unusually Matthew didn't wait for the bus to empty to get a picture inside. When we got off the bus this time Matthew took us outside to the adjacent Gravel Street where we found the disabled toilets on the outside of the bus station next to the coach stands. Matthew used the toilet and when he came out he we saw Easy Yorkshire Motor Services' National Express liveried coach 74 which was on a #327 to Scarborough.


EYMS 74 in Leicester bus station
We walked back inside the bus station and we had decided on doing another #127 service out of town so that we could catch a #22 back in. On stand waiting was required Arriva Midlands 4764.


Arriva Midlands 4764 in Leicester bus station
We got on the bus and we flashed the Flexi day Ticket to the driver before we went upstairs and sat down. The bus was already partially filled and Matthew didn't take a picture inside. We set off out of the bus station and we joined the Eastbound ring road. Like before we went as far as the A607 where we went East. We ran over Belgrave Circus and we saw Arriva Midlands 2406 & 2527 both on #6 Syston services. We veered left onto Loughborough Road and we passed an old favourite Arriva Midlands 4777 on a #127 to Leicester. We had quite a few mile on that bus back when it was part of the Wardles Transport fleet and branded for the X50 service. Our first run on the bus was back in April 2012 from Uttoxeter to Fenton. We crossed the A563 and we got up and got off the bus. Matthew took another picture of Arriva Midlands 4764 before if carried on towards Loughborough.


Arriva Midlands 4764 in Birstall
This time we had checked the map and we saw the the #22 service deviated from the #127 by going up Birstall Road and into the old village instead of going up Loughborough Road. We crossed the road and as we were walking around the corner into Birstall Road we saw Paul S Winson coach XX15 PSW going around the roundabout.


Paul S Winson XX15 PSW in Birstall
We walked up Birstall Road to the stop and we discovered that the #22's were operated by Centrebus. We though that the #22's were operated by First as we had seen First Leicester Streetlites with #22 branding on them. We saw there was a bus due shortly so to make thing happen quicker we gave Matthew a double Milky way, which we shared with me and uncle Dave. As soon as we started eating we saw a Centrebus Solo come around the corner. As it got closer we saw that it was required Centrebus 254.


Centrebus 254 in Birstall
We got on the bus and we flashed the Flexi day Ticket to the driver before we went to the back of the bus and sat down. We managed to stop Matthew from honking the horn at this point. The bus sat and waited time for a short while and then we continued over the A563 onto Loughborough Road. As we ran towards the A607 we saw Arriva Midlands 4777 again on a #127 to Loughborough. We joined the A607 and we ran into town over Belgrave Circus onto Belgrave Gate. We veered to the left onto Charles Street and past the Haymarket bus station. We went a bit further down the road than I had hoped we would, but we got up and got off the bus. Unfortunately this time I was able to stop Matthew honking the horn. :( We walked back up Charles Street and on to the way to the bus station we saw Centrebus 250 on a #54A to Goodwood and Arriva Midlands 4425 on a #47 to South Wigston. We crossed over the road and we saw First Leicester Streetlite 63345 on a #38 service to Nether Hall.


First Leicester 63345 in Leicester
We walked towards the bus station and on one of the near end stands we saw Arriva Midlands 4525 on a #5 service to Melton Mowbray.


Arriva Midlands 4525 in Leicester bus station
We walked through the bus station and out the other side. Buses of interest seen were First Leicester 55106 on a #20 to Braunstone, tram liveried First Leicester 66965 on a #18 to Braunstone and former Potteries bus First Leicester 66311 on a #12 to park Rise. We walked back into the bus station and we saw required First Leicester Streetdeck 35152 on a #14A to the Beaumont Centre.


First Leicester 35152 in Leicester bus station
We asked Matthew if he wanted to do this double decker and he said yes. As we queued to get on the double decker we saw required Arriva Midlands 4007 on an adjacent stand abut to work a #31A service to Coombe Rise.


Arriva Midlands 4007 in Leicester bus station
We got on the bus and we flashed the Flexi day Ticket to the driver before we went upstairs and sat down. The top deck was empty so Matthew took a picture inside First Leicester 35152 before we sat down.


Inside First Leicester 35152
Whilst we waited for departure time we saw Stagecoach Midlands 27686 on a X7 to Market Harborough.


Stagecoach Midlands 27686 in Leicester bus station
We also saw a Viking coaches white Bova. We set off out of the bus station onto Belgrave Gate and onto Abbey Street. We turned left onto the A594 and we went past the St Margarets bus station where we saw Arriva Midlands 4752 running out of service. We turned right onto the A50 and we crossed over the Grand Union Canal and the river Soar. Near to Aldi we turned right onto Fosse Road North and forwards onto Henley Road. We turned right onto Petworth Driva and forwards onto Aikman Avenue. After a mile run through a housing estate we turned right onto the A563 outer ring road. After we crossed the A50 we entered Glenfield Hospital, before continuing North up the A563. We turned left onto Anstey lane and right onto Binnion Road. We ran past the Beaumont Centre before doing a u-turn at the next roundabout and pulling up outside the main pedestrian entrance on the shopping centre and bus stops. We got of the bus and we also saw First Leicester 63355 which was on a #25 to Leicester.


First Leicester 63355 in Beaumont Centre
On the adjacent Rutherford Road we saw we saw First Leicester 63347 on a #74 to Anstey.


First Leicester 63347 in Beaumont Centre
There was a McDonalds nearby so we went over to use the toilet. Whilst uncle Dave accompanied Matthew to the facilities, I queued up to get some fries and a plain cheeseburger. We headed back to the bus stop and we saw First Leicester 66975 on a #74 to Anstey.


First Leicester 66975 in Beaumont Centre
We sat at the bus stop an Matthew ate his cheeseburger and fries, which he washed down with a can of Vimto. A few minutes later we saw the double decker run up to the roundabout to do the u-turn before returning to the stop. It was required First Leicester Streetdeck 35155.


First Leicester 35155 in Beaumont Centre
We got on the bus and we flashed the Flexi day Ticket to the driver for the final time today before we went upstairs and sat down. The top deck was empty so Matthew took a picture inside First Leicester 35155 before we sat down.


Inside First Leicester 35155
The bus filled up and we went South down to the A563 and into Glenfield Hospital. We crossed over the A50 and we continued South for 1/4 a mile before turning right into Aikman Avenue. We ran into town along Fosse road North, joining the A50 and running through Frog Island onto the A594. We turned right into Abbey street and we saw Silverdale MX10 DFL & South Gloucestershire (National Express) BX65 WCA on a #339 service to Grimsby. We ran into Charles Street before we entered the bus station for the final time. We got up and got off the bus and then we met up with mum. We went to the toilets which were better than the facilities as st Margaret's by a long way. When then headed to the car which mum had moved to the Haymarket car park. On the way we stopped outside the bus station to take a few pictures. We saw First Leicester 35184 on a #54 service to the Beaumont Centre.


First Leicester 35184 in Leicester bus station
We walked into the shopping centre and to the back where we got in the lift. The car was parked close to the lift and we got in where Matthew had a Greggs sausage roll washed down with a small bottle of Irn Bru. We left the car park and down onto Belgrave Gate. We turned left onto Abbey Street and we ran down to the A594 ring Road. We turned right onto the A50 and we ran out of town along Frog Island. Somehow we managed to miss the turning and we ran South to the A47 before going West to the outer ring road and North along the A563 up the A50. We ran the 5 or 6 miles to M1 and as we ran Westwards through the darkness we passed an unidentified Stagecoach Megabus on a M20 service. We went North up to the A50 and we ran West for around 35 miles. When we got to Longton we came off the A50 so that we could see what was parked up at Z Carz this evening. In the front row was recent arrival Z Carz Citroen minibus LV59 DZC.


Z Carz LV59 DZC in Longton
Also in the front row was Z Carz Ford minibus LG09 JVX.


Z Carz LG09 JVX in Longton
The nearest vehicle in the front row was another recent arrival to the fleet, Z Carz Citroen minibus LV10 OTM.


Z Carz LV10 OTM in Longton
In the second row we saw Z Carz Renault minibus MV53 KKO.


Z Carz MV53 KKO in Longton
We turned into Willow Row to see what was parked in the compound this evening. We saw Z Carz Ford minibus YS09 LWV.


Z Carz YS09 LWV in Longton
We also saw Z Carz minibus YJ53 WPD. We re-joined the A50 and we crossed over onto Baths Road and into Tesco where we filled up with Petrol. Whilst there we saw Intercity minibus SF58 EWL. We ran along the A50 and we came off it again at Heron Cross. We ran through Blurton along Blurton Road and we turned right into Church Road. We turned right into Beaconsfield Drive getting home around 19:45. For a late tea Matthew had bangers and mash with carrots followed by a jam filled shortbread biscuit. Matthew then chilled out on his computer until bedtime around 00:00... Mark